Chuck Schumer is trash. I’m 74 years old and for the past few years I have been saying again and again: it’s time to get rid of Chuck Schumer and his ilk. They lie, they betray, then they ask for our money.
I have not donated a penny to the DNC for the past few years. My $$ goes to AOC, Bernie, Jasmine Crockett, Jamie Raskin, Gavin Newsome, Tim Walz, and others who actually represent US and who fight like hell. These trashy Dems have just given the fascists more power to destroy America. May they rot.
I'm so pissed I could spit. Do those Dem defectors really think the MAGA GOP will keep their word? Giving up the high ground for the promise of a vote? Spineless motherfuckers!
Called every one of the Disgraced Eight, then left the democratic party. I'm now officially an Indie. I will not stand by a party that won't stand up for the American people. Done. Bye. And fuck Chuck.
I'll be doing the same. They just did to the America what Trump did in his recent AI video - shat on the country. Shat on the non-millionaires and billionaires. Shat on the working class and the straggling remnants of the middle class. I'm done allying myself with a party that blows all of its political capital, repeatedly. They work for themselves, not the people they represent.
you know what…. seems odd I never considered it but I’m going to officially leave Democratic party registration and go Independent. If we could get a wave of that action that may wake up these assholes. And it’d surely send a signal that the Democratic party needs to change same as GOP/MAGA. Old school party politics need to be gone and left to the history books.
I am heading in that direction as well. I’m convinced it’s straight up corruption. Meet the new (2010) Citizens United corruption, same as the old corruption…
The entire DNC money machine knew they were going to do this, but they manipulated their voters the same as MAGA does. No vote before the elections, and a hope that we’ll forget before the midterms. Ken Martin is a snake.
I absolutely must disagree that new Chair Ken Martin has done nothing. The DNC has been highly supportive in the wins this year. His next priority is Aftyn Behn in the special election in TN-07. That seat could be flipped to Dems.
Also Martin released a statement reaffirming his support for the Senators who voted against this:
Note 3: As a Lions fan just saying we travel heavy. There were LOTS of Lions fans there joining in the boos!
And also, how unsurprising that “no politics in sports” only applies to a Black athlete kneeling for social justice but not the fucking so-called “president” being “interviewed” DURING THE THIRD QUARTER ( which they so-conveniently announced 50 minutes into the game, likely because they knew people wouldn’t tune in if they knew ahead of time). We had to watch on mute for over half the third ( I know first world problem) which had no commentary anyway due to 1. letting trump ramble 2. announcers’ taking turns sucking up to/off trump. Imagine if they interviewed Biden and let him do commentary😜
What is your opinion of Amon-Ra doing the Trump double penis pull dance after he scored a touchdown? Was he doing a parody or is he a fan of old Fatso?
I was unhappily surprised. He posted essentially that he did it because the president was there and he didn’t know when the president would be there again so that’s why he did it. Apparently he’s made fun of trump on his podcast, so I think it was just a poor choice of clowning around, especially given that trump was given all that free airtime later, which has NEVER been done before.
I cannot bring myself into affinity with farmers. They voted for Trump. No doubt farmers would be a lot smarter had they gone to Trump University. Let farmers eat soybeans. Soybeans are a great source of protein.
“All of us who are dismayed by the present state of the union, this is no time to give up,” Biden declared. “It’s time to get up. Get up now, get up.”
If you have become overwhelmed, rely on my 2 buckets to sanity. 2 buckets says stay in the fight. We are winning with a year to midterms. If you stay in, we will shut them down.
You know what, Mr Selfe, I commonly tell people (I'm a psychiatrist, and I do couple's therapy and marriage counseling, too) that in this country, which is relatively liberal, in the sense that you can do more or less whatever you want, the divorce rate is close to 50%. Of the other 50%, who don't get divorced, many of them should, because they're unhappily married. So I say that marriage is a dumb bet which most people are going to lose, one way or another.
The farmers had whatever issues they had, Donnie made them promises, and they made a bet (that he was right). You and I might say that no one in his or her right mind would bet that Donnie was ever right about anything. But I'm not a farmer, and maybe you're not, either. So we found out last week that many people now realize they made many dumb bets, and they're trying to correct them.
The long term problem is that farmers and ranchers will continue the cycle over and over and over again. The absolutely WILL NOT vote blue under any circumstances. Some might move to the Center or become Independent, but they will not vote blue. The will continue to back the party that has no use for them, whine and cry for a bailout from our tax dollars, which they will get, and then turn around and vote red again and the cycle starts over.
Raised in the rural farmland/ranchland structure around these people, am related to them today and they still vote RED no matter what or how stupid, still take the hand outs from our tax dollars to bail them out when their votes don't net them the millions they thought they were promised in the last election. My brother, a rancher, is dead now, but that was his thinking all along - that any taxes for wealthy people were taxes on him, someone who would never become wealthy and died with very little money in the bank, had to pay back thousands in social security, and had a gross annual wage of about $46,000. But he voted RED anyway with what I can only surmise were delusions that he would become one of the people in those upper tax brackets some day and he didn't want to pay taxes on money he was never ever going to make. Yep, sounds stupid because it was stupid and still is stupid. But that's the way farmers and ranchers vote.
"it's a free country." And the public/voters are free to make any mistakes they want. As you say, they can make them insistently and repeatedly.
Do not forget last week. Republicans can do what they like, because they're in the majority. They're too intoxicated to realize what 7M people at No Kings rallies, and last week, means.
You're saying that people in farm country never get it, and they never will. The rest of us do and will. Depending on what's left of this country by a year from now, we'll save them from themselves, and they'll criticize us for it.
One of Michael Moore's documentaries is "Sicko." It's about the disaster that is the American medical industry. At the end, he talks about some guy who has a website dedicated to hating Michael Moore, and talking endless shit about him. But the guy says his wife has cancer, medical costs are through the roof, and he will have to shut down his website. Moore sent him an anonymous check for $12K to keep it going. "It's a free country."
Michael Moore’s stuff is great..it’s a free country to be as stupid as you wanna be..that dumbing down in public schools worked wonders. Generational dumbassedness. Since the government has no obligation to feed people (the church does, according to the saintly Rethugs) I’m guessing they don’t have an obligation to provide anything. Sick? Go die and die fast. As Alan Grayson (sp) said a millennium ago.
All correct. It's a democracy, and the voters get what they want. If they want a government that's not obligated to them, and wants them to die, that's what they'll get. Dictatorships are the most efficient form of government, but the results aren't much better. At least now, the public/voters can wake the fuck up, and we'll have something better in the future. If we get there.
The alternative, and it's how this country got to be what it is in the first place, is a revolution. But we can't do that. As opposed as I generally am to the "Second Amendment," the right to keep and bear arms is already highly infringed, and the Amendment's stated purpose is to allow militias to function, to challenge over-reach by the federal government. To do that, militias would have to be armed as the federal government is armed. But almost all the arms that would be necessary are already illegal for civilian possession. We're not even close.
here in Canada rural people vote conservative (which these days is MAGA-lite)...far as I can figure from rural relatives, they resent city folk who run things while they, salt of the earth, do the actual work - but the system screws us all
Interesting take on life in general - I can see it, but I disagree with it.
How many rural Americans drive cars, trucks, vans, SUVs? how many have farm equipment that runs on something other than pulled by horses? How many of them have homes built with modern materials, composite shingles on the roof, indoor plumbing, running water, heat that doesn't involve a chimney and chopped wood? How many have a stove to cook on that doesn't have to be stoked with wood? or a refrigerator? or a washer and dryer? how many rural folks have mini-appliances on their counters and drink coffee? What about their television, any computers or other devices, or the Internet? All that and more comes from the folks in the cities that are doing the work so they can live better, cleaner, more sanitary lives and live longer - and I didn't even touch on medical care.
See? They may not like the city folk, and they may think they are the salt of the earth and do everything, but unless they are out in the outback living in a log cabin with an outhouse and a well and no electricity, no internet, no nothing, then that doesn't wash.
true - farmers that are left have big new trucks and all the stuff, and I’m old enough to remember outhouses, wood stove, gas lamps, growing their own groceries…but the old resentments live on
Or are passed on. I grew up in a house with 1 pot bellied stove to heat the entire place. Our stove had to be heated up using wood, same with baking. In the Winter we had to use the outhouse because the pipes always froze, and we always had candles and kerosene lanterns. We had a garden in the summer, and canned food every fall. My family were hunters for deer and elk, and we butchered cattle, sheep, and pigs for meat. Yes, my parents had a car and a truck. Yes, we had electricity, plumbing and running water. But that was about all. No phone, a television that had rabbit ears.... I was raised in rural America on a ranch full of elders who hated democrats, and their grandchildren, great grandchildren and even great great grandchildren feel the same way. Yet they collected Social Security and used Medicare for the elder care, have taken advantage of health insurance plans, worked for someone in a city somewhere while standing in the rural yard decreeing that all Democrats should be shot.
I was the rebel. I left over 40 years ago when I discovered that "R's" don't want anyone but them to have anything and went to the city! And here I shall stay!
Yeah... after we overwhelmingly showed these dumb asses that we had their backs to hold out for the ACA subsidies on Tuesday, they rolled over and played dead after careening the car off a 2,000 sheer cliff.
Next step if this all gets past the 60 vote threshold to close Debate, the simple majority to pass the Bill in the Senate and the Simple Majority to pass the bill in the House, the Government will re-open until January 20th when it will all happen all over again - unless the Senate and the House can pass the 2026 budget which takes 60 votes. The dumb asses actually killed the ACA subsidies because the MAGAs aren't going to support them in the "pitty vote" that was offered last night. Then the MAGAs have the photon torpedo loaded and ready to take out SNAP and Medicaid all over again after the 2026 Midterms.
We have to primary these Democrats and put people in power who are actually going to fight for us! I'm a Democrat, and I want the Democratic party to do better. I want the right person in the office, Democrat or Independent, or whomever, but they need to be willing to stand up and fight like hell, grab the wheel and keep the car on the road no matter what.
Back Stabbing Traitors! Primary every one of these jerks & vote them out! These Democrats betrayed all the Americans who were counting on them to stand firm and keep fighting. More importantly, they betrayed the poor & disadvantaged.
Trumpstein actually tried to get the fans at a fucking football game to recite an oath of loyalty to him (and his cabinet heads)? WTAF? I'm sure the press, especially Jake Tapper, are planning to write a book about this, right?
I wondered who he was trying to swear in…I didn’t watch the game, and I am glad now that I didn’t. That is so gross. I’m very happy that the crowd responded appropriately!
I was sorely tempted to say the same last night, but that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. No, I'm done with the Hateful Eight (or however many it is; last night I was seeing ten, today it's seven or eight). None of them will get another penny from me; nor will PACs that contribute to many candidates. I'll give to people who passed this test by *not* pissing away the only leverage Democrats had.
Well, I'm not - because if I defect to become and Independent, then I have no party at all and nothing will get done to change the idiots running the Democratic party. I'm in it to win it and I want to be with other Dems to fight it out and make sure our party is truly for the people, not just some of our party. We are on a roll from last Tuesday, and 8 out of 262 Dems in Congress is miniscule - they can be taken out or at least corralled when they are outnumbered by more progressives. That's my goal... to primary the rotten ones and get more people in who are FOR THE People and will fight for what we all want and need.
Killing the Democratic party at this point allows the MAGAs to take complete control. I want the Democrats to be the party of the People, not just say they are! I'm going to fight on!
They lost the battle. They lost the war. They lost the 2026 elections. In one day, they just lost the support of MILLIONS of Americans who thought the Dems had their backs. Game over. Way to destroy what was the last best hope for the working class, Dems. They completely blew it.
Chuck Schumer is trash. I’m 74 years old and for the past few years I have been saying again and again: it’s time to get rid of Chuck Schumer and his ilk. They lie, they betray, then they ask for our money.
I have not donated a penny to the DNC for the past few years. My $$ goes to AOC, Bernie, Jasmine Crockett, Jamie Raskin, Gavin Newsome, Tim Walz, and others who actually represent US and who fight like hell. These trashy Dems have just given the fascists more power to destroy America. May they rot.
I refuse to send the jerk DNC anything!!! Why the hell would we?
Newsom. No E at the end of his last name
Same age and your kindred spirit on this!
I have added Pritzker to my list. Otherwise, I' m with you.
I'm so pissed I could spit. Do those Dem defectors really think the MAGA GOP will keep their word? Giving up the high ground for the promise of a vote? Spineless motherfuckers!
No. They don’t think they’ll keep their word. They know they won’t. These aren’t naive, stupid people. That makes it even worse.
Called every one of the Disgraced Eight, then left the democratic party. I'm now officially an Indie. I will not stand by a party that won't stand up for the American people. Done. Bye. And fuck Chuck.
I'll be doing the same. They just did to the America what Trump did in his recent AI video - shat on the country. Shat on the non-millionaires and billionaires. Shat on the working class and the straggling remnants of the middle class. I'm done allying myself with a party that blows all of its political capital, repeatedly. They work for themselves, not the people they represent.
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you know what…. seems odd I never considered it but I’m going to officially leave Democratic party registration and go Independent. If we could get a wave of that action that may wake up these assholes. And it’d surely send a signal that the Democratic party needs to change same as GOP/MAGA. Old school party politics need to be gone and left to the history books.
I’ve been proud of being a lifelong Democrat. Now I’m considering becoming an independent. My party has so disappointed me.
Feeling likewise Delores. This is maddening.
Yes! Same here. Great points. 👌😊
Never committed to any party (it’s not required in my state for voting in the primaries - you just choose one ballot when you vote).
Besides it’s the policies that matter not the labels.
Exactly.
I’m looking into refs in my state asap.
And the money I dedicated to support many key elections (would do it again) but jeez, we need a plan !
I am heading in that direction as well. I’m convinced it’s straight up corruption. Meet the new (2010) Citizens United corruption, same as the old corruption…
The entire DNC money machine knew they were going to do this, but they manipulated their voters the same as MAGA does. No vote before the elections, and a hope that we’ll forget before the midterms. Ken Martin is a snake.
I absolutely must disagree that new Chair Ken Martin has done nothing. The DNC has been highly supportive in the wins this year. His next priority is Aftyn Behn in the special election in TN-07. That seat could be flipped to Dems.
Also Martin released a statement reaffirming his support for the Senators who voted against this:
https://x.com/kenmartin73/status/1987703571731689523?s=201
They're certainly not stupid but they are dirty as hell...
Yup.👍🏼
Note 3: As a Lions fan just saying we travel heavy. There were LOTS of Lions fans there joining in the boos!
And also, how unsurprising that “no politics in sports” only applies to a Black athlete kneeling for social justice but not the fucking so-called “president” being “interviewed” DURING THE THIRD QUARTER ( which they so-conveniently announced 50 minutes into the game, likely because they knew people wouldn’t tune in if they knew ahead of time). We had to watch on mute for over half the third ( I know first world problem) which had no commentary anyway due to 1. letting trump ramble 2. announcers’ taking turns sucking up to/off trump. Imagine if they interviewed Biden and let him do commentary😜
The boos gave me such happiness, fleeting though it was after then learning about the douche Dems.
What is your opinion of Amon-Ra doing the Trump double penis pull dance after he scored a touchdown? Was he doing a parody or is he a fan of old Fatso?
I was unhappily surprised. He posted essentially that he did it because the president was there and he didn’t know when the president would be there again so that’s why he did it. Apparently he’s made fun of trump on his podcast, so I think it was just a poor choice of clowning around, especially given that trump was given all that free airtime later, which has NEVER been done before.
I cannot bring myself into affinity with farmers. They voted for Trump. No doubt farmers would be a lot smarter had they gone to Trump University. Let farmers eat soybeans. Soybeans are a great source of protein.
“All of us who are dismayed by the present state of the union, this is no time to give up,” Biden declared. “It’s time to get up. Get up now, get up.”
If you have become overwhelmed, rely on my 2 buckets to sanity. 2 buckets says stay in the fight. We are winning with a year to midterms. If you stay in, we will shut them down.
https://hotbuttons.substack.com/p/too-much-two-buckets-to-sanity?r=3m1bs
Tell this to the Turncoats!
You know what, Mr Selfe, I commonly tell people (I'm a psychiatrist, and I do couple's therapy and marriage counseling, too) that in this country, which is relatively liberal, in the sense that you can do more or less whatever you want, the divorce rate is close to 50%. Of the other 50%, who don't get divorced, many of them should, because they're unhappily married. So I say that marriage is a dumb bet which most people are going to lose, one way or another.
The farmers had whatever issues they had, Donnie made them promises, and they made a bet (that he was right). You and I might say that no one in his or her right mind would bet that Donnie was ever right about anything. But I'm not a farmer, and maybe you're not, either. So we found out last week that many people now realize they made many dumb bets, and they're trying to correct them.
The long term problem is that farmers and ranchers will continue the cycle over and over and over again. The absolutely WILL NOT vote blue under any circumstances. Some might move to the Center or become Independent, but they will not vote blue. The will continue to back the party that has no use for them, whine and cry for a bailout from our tax dollars, which they will get, and then turn around and vote red again and the cycle starts over.
Raised in the rural farmland/ranchland structure around these people, am related to them today and they still vote RED no matter what or how stupid, still take the hand outs from our tax dollars to bail them out when their votes don't net them the millions they thought they were promised in the last election. My brother, a rancher, is dead now, but that was his thinking all along - that any taxes for wealthy people were taxes on him, someone who would never become wealthy and died with very little money in the bank, had to pay back thousands in social security, and had a gross annual wage of about $46,000. But he voted RED anyway with what I can only surmise were delusions that he would become one of the people in those upper tax brackets some day and he didn't want to pay taxes on money he was never ever going to make. Yep, sounds stupid because it was stupid and still is stupid. But that's the way farmers and ranchers vote.
"it's a free country." And the public/voters are free to make any mistakes they want. As you say, they can make them insistently and repeatedly.
Do not forget last week. Republicans can do what they like, because they're in the majority. They're too intoxicated to realize what 7M people at No Kings rallies, and last week, means.
You're saying that people in farm country never get it, and they never will. The rest of us do and will. Depending on what's left of this country by a year from now, we'll save them from themselves, and they'll criticize us for it.
One of Michael Moore's documentaries is "Sicko." It's about the disaster that is the American medical industry. At the end, he talks about some guy who has a website dedicated to hating Michael Moore, and talking endless shit about him. But the guy says his wife has cancer, medical costs are through the roof, and he will have to shut down his website. Moore sent him an anonymous check for $12K to keep it going. "It's a free country."
Michael Moore’s stuff is great..it’s a free country to be as stupid as you wanna be..that dumbing down in public schools worked wonders. Generational dumbassedness. Since the government has no obligation to feed people (the church does, according to the saintly Rethugs) I’m guessing they don’t have an obligation to provide anything. Sick? Go die and die fast. As Alan Grayson (sp) said a millennium ago.
All correct. It's a democracy, and the voters get what they want. If they want a government that's not obligated to them, and wants them to die, that's what they'll get. Dictatorships are the most efficient form of government, but the results aren't much better. At least now, the public/voters can wake the fuck up, and we'll have something better in the future. If we get there.
The alternative, and it's how this country got to be what it is in the first place, is a revolution. But we can't do that. As opposed as I generally am to the "Second Amendment," the right to keep and bear arms is already highly infringed, and the Amendment's stated purpose is to allow militias to function, to challenge over-reach by the federal government. To do that, militias would have to be armed as the federal government is armed. But almost all the arms that would be necessary are already illegal for civilian possession. We're not even close.
here in Canada rural people vote conservative (which these days is MAGA-lite)...far as I can figure from rural relatives, they resent city folk who run things while they, salt of the earth, do the actual work - but the system screws us all
Interesting take on life in general - I can see it, but I disagree with it.
How many rural Americans drive cars, trucks, vans, SUVs? how many have farm equipment that runs on something other than pulled by horses? How many of them have homes built with modern materials, composite shingles on the roof, indoor plumbing, running water, heat that doesn't involve a chimney and chopped wood? How many have a stove to cook on that doesn't have to be stoked with wood? or a refrigerator? or a washer and dryer? how many rural folks have mini-appliances on their counters and drink coffee? What about their television, any computers or other devices, or the Internet? All that and more comes from the folks in the cities that are doing the work so they can live better, cleaner, more sanitary lives and live longer - and I didn't even touch on medical care.
See? They may not like the city folk, and they may think they are the salt of the earth and do everything, but unless they are out in the outback living in a log cabin with an outhouse and a well and no electricity, no internet, no nothing, then that doesn't wash.
true - farmers that are left have big new trucks and all the stuff, and I’m old enough to remember outhouses, wood stove, gas lamps, growing their own groceries…but the old resentments live on
Or are passed on. I grew up in a house with 1 pot bellied stove to heat the entire place. Our stove had to be heated up using wood, same with baking. In the Winter we had to use the outhouse because the pipes always froze, and we always had candles and kerosene lanterns. We had a garden in the summer, and canned food every fall. My family were hunters for deer and elk, and we butchered cattle, sheep, and pigs for meat. Yes, my parents had a car and a truck. Yes, we had electricity, plumbing and running water. But that was about all. No phone, a television that had rabbit ears.... I was raised in rural America on a ranch full of elders who hated democrats, and their grandchildren, great grandchildren and even great great grandchildren feel the same way. Yet they collected Social Security and used Medicare for the elder care, have taken advantage of health insurance plans, worked for someone in a city somewhere while standing in the rural yard decreeing that all Democrats should be shot.
I was the rebel. I left over 40 years ago when I discovered that "R's" don't want anyone but them to have anything and went to the city! And here I shall stay!
Yeah... after we overwhelmingly showed these dumb asses that we had their backs to hold out for the ACA subsidies on Tuesday, they rolled over and played dead after careening the car off a 2,000 sheer cliff.
Next step if this all gets past the 60 vote threshold to close Debate, the simple majority to pass the Bill in the Senate and the Simple Majority to pass the bill in the House, the Government will re-open until January 20th when it will all happen all over again - unless the Senate and the House can pass the 2026 budget which takes 60 votes. The dumb asses actually killed the ACA subsidies because the MAGAs aren't going to support them in the "pitty vote" that was offered last night. Then the MAGAs have the photon torpedo loaded and ready to take out SNAP and Medicaid all over again after the 2026 Midterms.
We have to primary these Democrats and put people in power who are actually going to fight for us! I'm a Democrat, and I want the Democratic party to do better. I want the right person in the office, Democrat or Independent, or whomever, but they need to be willing to stand up and fight like hell, grab the wheel and keep the car on the road no matter what.
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@Bluesmurf
Time to vote them all out! It’s LONG OVERDUE!
Back Stabbing Traitors! Primary every one of these jerks & vote them out! These Democrats betrayed all the Americans who were counting on them to stand firm and keep fighting. More importantly, they betrayed the poor & disadvantaged.
Chuck Schumer should have been retired long ago. He calls himself a moderate, I call him a coward and a traitor.
He sold us out. He needs to go!! IMO, he orchestrated this.
Trumpstein actually tried to get the fans at a fucking football game to recite an oath of loyalty to him (and his cabinet heads)? WTAF? I'm sure the press, especially Jake Tapper, are planning to write a book about this, right?
I wondered who he was trying to swear in…I didn’t watch the game, and I am glad now that I didn’t. That is so gross. I’m very happy that the crowd responded appropriately!
I believe I’m done with the Dems…
I was sorely tempted to say the same last night, but that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. No, I'm done with the Hateful Eight (or however many it is; last night I was seeing ten, today it's seven or eight). None of them will get another penny from me; nor will PACs that contribute to many candidates. I'll give to people who passed this test by *not* pissing away the only leverage Democrats had.
Well, I'm not - because if I defect to become and Independent, then I have no party at all and nothing will get done to change the idiots running the Democratic party. I'm in it to win it and I want to be with other Dems to fight it out and make sure our party is truly for the people, not just some of our party. We are on a roll from last Tuesday, and 8 out of 262 Dems in Congress is miniscule - they can be taken out or at least corralled when they are outnumbered by more progressives. That's my goal... to primary the rotten ones and get more people in who are FOR THE People and will fight for what we all want and need.
Killing the Democratic party at this point allows the MAGAs to take complete control. I want the Democrats to be the party of the People, not just say they are! I'm going to fight on!
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@Bluesmurf
We need better leadership. Vote em out!!
They lost the battle. They lost the war. They lost the 2026 elections. In one day, they just lost the support of MILLIONS of Americans who thought the Dems had their backs. Game over. Way to destroy what was the last best hope for the working class, Dems. They completely blew it.